Showing posts with label research mode. Show all posts
Showing posts with label research mode. Show all posts

Tuesday, March 23, 2010

Revised To Do List

Change Banks
  1. Change Hubby's disability deposit - Pending
  2. Change Hubby's paycheck direct deposit
  3. Change account that life insurance comes out of
  4. Change account that YMCA membership comes out of
  5. Change account that Netflix comes out of
  6. Change account that Paypal is linked to
  7. Set up new bill pay through Landmark Bank
  8. Take my name off mom's account
  9. Take my name off our BOA joint account
  10. Close my savings account and my checking account at BOA
Paperwork
  1. Print worksheets off internet site
  2. Complete rough draft for lawyer to look over - Mostly Complete
  3. Copies of tax returns (2005-current just in case)
  4. Copies of closed bank account statements (6 months, just in case)
  5. Copies of W-2s from hubby - Waiting on filing date
  6. Copy of hubby's disability letter - Have but not in pile of Chapter 7 stuff
  7. 3 months of bank statements prior to filing
    1. BOA
    2. Landmark
    3. ING
  8. Copy of Roth IRA statements - Have but not in pile of Chapter 7 paperwork
  9. Possession List - In progress
Mom Assorted
  1. Prepay for cremation expenses
  2. Pay off car
  3. Purchase travel plane tickets for her yearly family trip 

Friday, February 26, 2010

First Look at Paperwork

On this website I found a list of free documents for my district that are needed to file for bankruptcy.

I printed out the free bankruptcy forms, looked them over, and went back and filled in as much as I can with what I have in front of me (and while watching my toddler).

First thoughts: Damn, I just killed a lot of trees. They don't provide enough room for some things. The instructions provided on the forms aren't very clear, and I'm glad I have an attorney on my side as well as internet for reference.

Second thoughts: Is there less oxygen in here? Gasp...

Third thoughts (after resuscitation): I pity the people who have to look at legal forms day in and day out. Especially with all the mistakes people must make. Yikes!

Friday, February 19, 2010

Meeting with Second Lawyer

I met with the second lawyer today, and he's the one I'm going to go with.

Board Certified? Yes, over 14 years

Free Consult? Yes

Consult Time Allotted: 60 minutes

Consult Time Actual: 90 minutes

I was met by his wife who I had previously talked to on the phone. She struck me as a motherly but no-nonsense kind of gal with an easy smile and a head full of facts. She gave me a stack of paperwork to fill out.

The other attorney had me fill out paperwork, but it was all about his office and fees and such. This one actually asked me questions. Lots and lots of questions. I read and write fast and it still took me 10 minutes, most of which was checking "yes" or "no" boxes.

She took my forms and told me he'd be with me in just a minute. He was true to her word.

He was much warmer than the other guy. He smiled, had a sense of humor, and struck me as an actual person who saw me as a person in return. He answered all of my questions (and then some).

They charge $1500 for their services.

I felt very comfortable with him. I think if I had interviewed 10 lawyers, I would have picked his personality and experience. There are (factually) three board-certified attorneys in the area. The first one I won't work with, the one today, and another who works with creditors rather than filers.

He will not be at my 341 meeting. He works with two other lawyers, one of whom has worked (and still works part time) as a trustee. I'll be meeting all of them and they'll be fully knowledgeable of my case. It saves him the drive to Tampa everyday. The man he works with (the trustee) comes into the office a few days a week, the woman (also board certified) works and lives in Tampa.

I'm going to put some of my issues and advice he gave in upcoming posts.

Thursday, February 18, 2010

Preparing

I've been rather calm the past few days. At least until last night. We have a few things I'm particularly concerned about and for some reason I was freaking out.

I spent a large part of yesterday on the BK boards reading about middle Florida cases. It seems our Trustees are particularly good at their job (aggressive) and that in quite a few Tampa cases an appraiser is sent to the house.

Yikes!

I printed out form 22A, which is the Chapter 7 Means Test.

Even though I "passed" in the first section I completed the whole form. Using the IRS and Census numbers (the form links directly to the appropriate website) I entered the information as directed. We have negative amounts at the end of the month, and that's without deducting for our student loan payments.

I'm feeling a little better because of that.

3 hours until I meet with the second attorney. I've decided there's no way I'm using the first one. 20 minutes is NOT long enough to make this kind of decision AND he lied about being the only one in the area who's board certified in bankruptcy.

Monday, February 15, 2010

Second Consultation Scheduled

I just got off the phone with another attorney's office and I'm laughing.

According to the first lawyer I met with, he was the only board certified bankruptcy attorney in the area.

The first lawyer gave 20 minutes.

"I'd like to schedule a free consultation for bankruptcy."
"Certainly."
"Is there anyway to do this over the phone? I'm interviewing several lawyers and at the last place it took me more time to get my toddler in and out of the car than it did to meet with the attorney."
She told me I had to make arrangements for childcare, this is an important decision, and that the attorney loves kids but I couldn't afford the distraction. I told her I'd do my best and we found a time.
"How long of a consultation does he give?"
"Up to an hour."
"An hour? Really? The last place only gave me 20 minutes."
She was appalled. 20 minutes is not nearly enough time to make such a critical decision. She laughed and said she guessed I didn't meet with a board-certified bankruptcy attorney.
"Actually, he was. (Name) also said that he was the only board-certified person in the area."
She was pissed. Apparently she knows this guy.
"(Name), my husband which is why I'm taking it so personally, has been board certified for twice as long as (name)."
"Oh my. Well, we both learned something new today."

I'm looking forward to meeting this new lawyer. I have a list of five others in the area that I'll be contacting to meet with, but I'm going to do one at a time. My mom says this way I can "get a feel" for what to expect, the language, etc. and have enough time to process in between.

Sunday, February 14, 2010

First Lawyer Meeting

We decided to talk to a lawyer and most in the area offer free consultations. It was easy to schedule.

On Friday I made my way through the maze of the office park and entered the office. The waiting area was small. There was one reception desk and three waiting chairs. The woman there was very friendly and helped entertain my 2-year old daughter.

There was a stack of papers I had to read and sign. It outlined what services he was offering for free and what he was NOT offering. It made sure I knew that each 30 minutes beyond the free 20 minute consultation would cost $150. There was lots of other information as well. I was impressed that it sounded like it had been written by an actual human being.

The lawyer came out of the conference room with another client. He shook hands and asked me into the room by name.

He was very tolerant of my daughter and I managed to ask my few questions.

The time flew.

He asked what my husband makes, what I make, and how much debt we had. He reminded me student loan debt is not dischargeable and I told him I knew. He said we shouldn't have any problem filing for Chapter 7.

I asked about liquidation of assets and how that works when only one spouse files.

Our newer car, in his name only, may or may not be an issue. We received our tax credit for purchasing a house (also only in his name) and used that to pay off the car in December. If an argument can be made that half the money was mine, it might mean that something has to come out of that. The longer we wait the less likely it will be an issue.

We need to list all belongings and be as thorough as possible. He said that because our house is only work 134,000 they wouldn't be looking for us to have too many assets.

My other problem is my mom's bank account. She's almost 70, retired, and has been saving up "burying money". Because my dad passed she put me on her account. Therefore it looks as though I have $10,000 saved up. I don't. It's hers.

If I'm just an authorized signer then it's not an issue. If my social security number is on the account then it's technically "mine". "They aren't looking to take an elderly woman's last dollar from her," he said, "but it will depend on which trustee you get and how aggressive they are."

I talked with my mom about. If there's a chance her money will be taken then there's no way we're filing.

"What's the money for?"

"It's so when I die you can take care of the body without it costing you anything."

"Well, what if we look into prepaying for the cremation and the urn; it might cost less than you think and then I won't have to take care of that detail when I'm mourning. Also, you might have enough money left over to pay off your car loan and you'd have an extra $200 a month."

She thought that was a great idea and asked me to look out for a good deal.

So, we'll see. I'm going to meet with her at the bank early next week and get taken off the account. I'll have her add me back on as soon as the bankruptcy is complete.

I wish the lawyer had given me a better answer. I want to protect her assets; it's very important to me.

I did also find out that I can safely use our upcoming tax return money to pay for the lawyer.

I'm going to call on Monday to set up a few more interviews. I hope I can do them over the phone. Honestly it took me more time to unload the kid and put her back in the car than I spent with the lawyer.

Impression of the lawyer: Cool and collected, slightly reserved. Emotionally neutral. Claims to answer email questions, which is good for me. Over 30 years experience. Only board-certified bankruptcy lawyer in the area.

Cost: $1500 plus $299 filing fee. Paid half and half if necessary.